Friday, 16 December 2016

Paedophile Hunters [Sic] And Their Friends - Why They Are Pointless, Time-Wasting, Resource-Wasting, Ignorant, Hater, Fools



"Social media are like a box of chocolates ..."

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(1) Prologue

Dispelling the myths and correcting the terminology of 'The Hunters'.

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(2) Child / Victim / Risk / Danger

There is no child or victim, these are inchoate offences. No minor is at risk of harm.

In almost every one of these entrapments, the primary reason why the target is not remanded in custody, is that, they present no significant risk of harm to the public. When they are remanded, it is usually a matter of being for their own health/safety and/or accommodation difficulties.

Ultimately, this is why sentences are, quite-rightly, relatively short/trivial, in the eyes of some.

The later consequences are not, in many cases.

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(3) Paedo

Due to the faux ages, adopted by the decoys, no paedophiles are involved in the process ...


 

 

The Puzzle of Male Chronophilias; Dr M.C. Seto


As we have shown ...


... the very popular, if not the peak, age of attraction for males to females, is in the Hebephilic and Ephebophilic ranges, i.e. 11-18, hence the success of these entrapments.

A biological and evolutionary imperative, all things being equal; arbitrary, socially-constructed, laws cannot change those.

 (4) Sick (Bastard / Cunt etc)

An attraction to minors, of whatever age, has never been deemed a sickness (i.e. a disease, a physical or mental dysfunction/disability).

Prior to DSM V and in ICD 10 (soon to be ICD 11), the attraction was one criterion, within the 'diagnosis' of Paedophilia (now, Paedophilic Disorder).

Alone, such an attraction (which is, fundamentally, a thought), whether preferential or not, is not rare, nor a sickness; nor is it an act; nor is it illegal; nor is it immoral (as it is not chosen).

The legal legitimacy, of the birth of these men, is, also, never established.

This is a deemed useful, derogatory, dehumanising, but false, stereotype, so as to create, maintain, shame and bait 'The Other', and for those in sexual denial, amongst the 'Hunter' groups.

(5) Dirty / Filthy (Bastard / Cunt etc)

We have yet to see any correlation, between those men who have been stung, and level of cleanliness.

They have ranged, from the untidy and/or scruffy (mainly, at home), to the scrupulously-clean and well-dressed.

Once again, the legal legitimacy, of the birth of these men, is, also, never established.

This is a deemed useful, derogatory, and dehumanising, but false, stereotype, so as to create, maintain, shame and bait 'The Other'.

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(6) Nonce / Bacon Bonce / Beast / Animal

Contrary to popular belief, a crime is not established, until guilt has been decided in a court of law, or the equivalent. What may be 'obvious', from the initial evidence, may be a completely different reality, once the facts have been scrutinised.

All defendants are innocent people, until guilt has been accepted or established. This is why NFA occurs, people are acquitted and, unfortunately, miscarriages of justice do occur, with the subsequent quashing of verdicts etc.

These names, are deemed useful, derogatory, dehumanising labels, so as to create, maintain, shame and bait 'The Other', and for those in sexual denial, amongst the 'Hunter' groups.

These are the same processes, which occur, in prisons, amongst the 'Main Population'.

More to follow.

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(7) Not Vigilantes
  


No, no, no, no ... that is just one aspect,
of what some of them do, implicitly or explicitly, read on ...


6/7/17; Silent Justice; the horse's mouth

They are vigilantes, because they do not have Legal Authority (following the law, alone, is not Legal Authority) ...


The effectiveness of Legal Authority builds on the acceptance of the validity of the following mutually inter-dependent ideas ...
  1. That any given legal norm may be established by agreement or by imposition, on the bases of expediency or rational values or both, with a claim to obedience at least on the part of the members of the corporate group.
  2. That every body of law consists essentially in a consistent system of abstract rules which have (normally) been intentionally established.
  3. That thus the typical person in authority occupies an ‘office’.
  4. That the person who obeys authority does so, as it is usually stated, only in his capacity as a ‘member’ of the corporate group and what he obeys is only ‘the law’.
  5. In conformity with point 3, it is held that the members of the corporate group, in so far as they obey a person in authority, do not owe this obedience to him as an individual, but to the impersonal order.
 

 For additional consideration ...


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(8) The Predator Myth







(Embedded Tweets - click dates)

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(9) Not Entrapment


(Embedded Tweets - click date).

That is entrapment.

26th July 2017 

Teacher accused of child sex plot will not stand trial after judges rule he was victim of entrapment by undercover officers

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15435062.Teacher_accused_of_child_sex_plot_will_not_stand_trial_after_judges_rule_he_was_victim_of_entrapment_by_undercover_officers/

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/scotland/child-sex-plot-teacher-was-victim-of-police-entrapment-c30tnmn78

https://www.scottishlegal.com/2017/07/26/teacher-accused-of-seeking-sex-with-child-has-entrapment-claim-upheld-on-appeal

Monday, 28 February, 2000, 17:59 GMT

Sheriff rules entrapment illegal

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/659997.stm

Thank You For The Confirmation

https://therealosc.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/thank-you-for-confirmation.html

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(10) Raising Awareness 

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 (11) Protecting Kids / Prosecutions

(a) Meeting of minors and the target group, which is entrapped, is negligible, in terms of risk ...

Posted: April 19, 2017

Kent Police issue a stern statement after a paedophile hunter sting went wrong in Bluewater


""I would therefore urge anyone who believes they have information or evidence of online grooming, or knows that a suspect is planning to meet a potential victim, to contact Kent Police at the earliest opportunity so that police officers can deal with these meetings and capture the best possible evidence.

"We do have significant concerns about people taking the law into their own hands and the methods they use, and in some cases acting outside of the law, and would strongly advise against getting involved in, or setting up activities to entrap those suspected of intending to commit offences.

"Although seemingly well-meaning, this can significantly hinder our work, compromise on-going investigations and negate months of investigative work.

"There is also the risk that it can potentially identify people who are completely innocent and mistakenly associate them with grooming offences.

"I would add that whilst police have resources and expertise to protect the vulnerable and people with mental health issues, members of the public generally do not, and can cause such individuals to be placed at serious risk of harm.

"The positive news is that awareness among children and young people about the dangers of meeting strangers has grown considerably and incidents where children meet adults in these circumstances are extremely rare.""

http://www.kentlive.news/kent-police-issue-a-stern-statement-after-a-paedophile-hunter-sting-went-wrong-in-bluewater/story-30279653-detail/story.html

(b) It is pointless ...



http://therealosc.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/hunter-myths-destroyed.html

(c) Social media sexual (and not) participation of minors, is self-policing and self-regulating, particularly in terms of larger age differences ...

May 09, 2017 

You’re a dirty paedo, go away: How teenage girl saw off Cheltenham sex offender on Facebook


"When she refused to co-operate and you threatened to make her famous by posting about her on Facebook that must have been very distressing for her.

 "Luckily she fought back and brought matters to an end by reporting matters to her family. She has coped admirably with her predicament ..."

http://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/you-8217-re-a-dirty-paedo-go-away-how-teenage-girl-saw-off-cheltenham-sex-offender-on-facebook/story-30319629-detail/story.html 

June 13, 2017 

Schoolgirl warns of grooming dangers after being targeted by sexual predator


"A schoolgirl targeted by a drug dealing sexual predator has warned others of the dangers of grooming.

The young victim boldly spurned RB's (43) offers of cash, alcohol, drugs and free taxi rides to visit his home.

She told him: "I'm underage, I'm 15.

"You're too old.""

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/schoolgirl-warns-of-grooming-dangers-after-being-targeted-by-sexual-predator/story-30386838-detail/story.html

21/8/17


Dad shares predatory messages sent to seven–year-old daughter on popular music app


http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/predatory-messages-sent-to-7-year-old-girl-musical-ly-music-app-dad-shares-online-grooming-child-a7904606.html

Hunters do not target minors, in their stings (for obvious, legal, reasons), but they are the markedly-largest group of those, who online (or offline) groom, meet and carry out sexual activities.

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(12) Using Their 'Own' Time And Money / For The Social Good



The Supposed Pay-Off, along with Non-Judicial Naming and Shaming

More to follow.

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(13) Safety and Survival









Risk of serious harm, or worse, for all, for nothing (see 10(b) and 14).

(14) Haters, Weak-Minded, Bullies and Empire Builders


28/5/17


25/6/17


25/6/17




13/7/17

We could spend all day, posting these infighting debacles

(15) Response, Revenge and Payback / Unintended Consequences


https://www.facebook.com/noncebusters

Published on May 7, 2017 

We've had a call to control, we are concerned for your safety. Jason Ford LOL


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn2dxJVG3n8&feature=youtu.be

May 8, 2017 

Wanted Southampton Man Jason Ford calls 999 to say he’s off to stab someone

http://uknip.co.uk/2017/05/wanted-southampton-man-jason-ford-calls-999-to-say-hes-off-to-stab-someone





(a) If one 'destroys' another's life, particularly for no good, real, reason, at least one of them is going to be looking for payback (ironically, Shane's MO, in fact).

Some are clever enough, to take it out on those who are very vulnerable, leaving the less vulnerable to weep and regret it all began. Some, have enough suitable and loyal contacts, to take it out on anyone. 

An eye for an eye.

To laugh about the possibility, shows a terrible lack of judgement, in those who laugh and for the safety of others.

(b) The second issue, is, the 'Nothing Left To Lose', consequence.

Consider the choice one has to make, if one has abducted a minor, or offended on one, when one has nothing left to lose. Compare with the USA, extreme sentencing and murdered minors, and the cases of Mr Ian Huntley, Mr Roy Whiting, Mr Mark Bridger and other UK offenders, may have relevance.

(c) The third issue, is, further, ongoing, inevitable, costs (let alone the legal/judicial/penal bill).



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(Embedded Tweets - click date)

More details to follow.

(16) Shooting Fish In A Barrel / Low Hanging Fruit

Consider placing an open suitcase, full of banknotes, on a pavement, overnight, What would happen?


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(17) Epilogue

This is an ongoing research project.

More to follow.

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Always worth a watch ...


Friday 25 October 2013

Vigilante paedophile hunters dispense morally dubious justice

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2013/oct/25/vigilante-paedophile-hunters-video 

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More to follow.

1 comment:

  1. These so called "hunters" dont care about kids they sting ppl to stroke thier own massive ego's oh and some do it for fainacal gain too.
    99% of thier stings invole entrapping people with learning disabilities easy bait for them to catch. When are they going to realise they are doing more harm than good. Its time they got themselfs a real job.

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